>As dancers, I think we have to be sensitive to clubs and musicians who
>prefer that we don't dance to their music (at least when they're
>performing it live).
Very true. But...
What about problems when bands are specifically hired to play for
dancing events. I recently had a problem at a dance in Greensboro, NC,
as part of National Ballroom Dance Week. At this dance, the band played
much too loudly -- loudly enough to damage hearing, as a matter of fact.
(Since my two recreations are dancing and singing--much of it a capella--
I notice damage to my hearing quite distinctly :-(8 It took about a week
for my hearing to recover to some semblance of normalcy.) In my twenty-plus
years of ballroom dancing, I can only recall a handful of occasions on
which I had this problem -- and in those cases, the bands were willing
to tone it down when asked politely. In this case, however, the band --
"The Emeralds", in the NC Triad area -- just played even louder. And
continued to do so when asked again by the organizers.
If you are organizing an event, I ask you to avoid bands which display
the sort of willful arrogance displayed by "The Emeralds. Furthermore,
please write controls on the loudness into your band contracts. Be
willing to penalize the bands which violate the contracted standards.
Music so loud that it damages the ears is neither necessary nor
appropriate at ballroom dancing events.
Carlie J. Coats, Jr. firstname.lastname@example.org *or* email@example.com
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Icono Clast)
Subject: Musicians who don't like dancers
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 08:03:00 GMT
CC}What about problems when bands are specifically hired to play for
}dancing events . . . Music so loud that it damages the ears is
}neither necessary nor appropriate at ballroom dancing events.
Nor anywhere else! Although I carry ear plugs, I shouldn't have to
nor should anyone else.
One Berkeley establishment I frequent, run by one of the
world's true Good Guys, has some sort of circuitry that limits db.
One of my most phrequently frazed complaints is: This is a dance, not
a concert! when the numbers run five minutes and longer.
From: email@example.com (Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems)
Subject: Re: Top ten Swing, Shag, and C & W songs ????
Date: 9 Oct 95 11:52:32 PDT
firstname.lastname@example.org (PROSHAGGER) writes:
> I really need to get more input on compiling a top ten songs list for
> swing, shag, and c & w. This project really requires a lot of input. My
> time to complete this is limited. If you have any input on this, please
> pass it along to me. I do appreciate everyone's cooperation in this.
several folks' song lists are on the dancer's archive at ftp.std.com .
I posted my list to r.a.d sometime ago, I don't know if Ellen picked
it up or not.
My list is a little different from other folks'. They're trying to be
exhaustive. My goal is to have a BRIEF list (fits on one sheet of
paper, without unreasonably small type) that you can hand to a dj,
with a few songs in each dance category. I figure, you don't want to
hand the dj a book or even several pages to look at -- the shorter it
is, the greater chance she or he will use it.
So there's no point in wasting space with stuff that isn't likely to
be in the bin. All of these songs are selected so that djs would be
likely to have them.
In fact, suitability for a particular dance ALMOST takes a back seat
to the chances that any random dj might have the song. So you're not
going to find much obscure stuff here! In fact, if you do, it's
probably a mistake...
I'd hoped to develop several shorter lists, one for oldies djs, one for
classic rock djs, etc., but never got enough input to go that far.
Anyway, I'm appending the current version of my list, fwiw.
--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
Internet: email@example.com (JH645) CompuServe: 74140,2055
Steam Peter Gabriel
I Can Dream About You Don Simpson - Streets of Fire
The Power of Love Huey Lewis - Back to the Future
I Wanna Dance With Somebody Whitney Houston
Deeper and Deeper Madonna
Get Into The Groove Madonna
Spice of Life Manhattan Transfer
Holding On Steve Winwood
Dancin' in the Sheets Shalamar
Tell It To My Heart Taylor Dayne
World in my Eyes Depeche Mode
What You Need INXS
Suicide Blonde INXS
(please, NO swing or oldies medleys)
What You Want Richard Marx - Paid Vacation
Heaven Is Waiting Richard Marx - Paid Vacation
Rock This Town Stray Cats
My Music Loggins and Messina
Footloose Loggins and Messina
Only the Good Die Young Billy Joel
Tell Her About It Billy Joel
Wake Me Up (Before You Go-Go) The Wham
Walk of Life Dire Straits
Don't Be Cruel Elvis (or Cheap Trick)
At The Hop Danny and the Jrs.
Rockin' Robin Bobby Day (please, not Michael Jackson)
Johnny B. Goode Chuck Berry
In The Mood Glenn Miller
Bandstand Boogie various
West Coast Swing
If You Wanna Leave Me Bryan Adams - Waking Up the Neighbors
Can't Stop This Thing We Started Bryan Adams - Waking Up the Neighbors
Black Velvet Alannah Myles
Roll With It Steve Winwood
True Blue Madonna
The Way She Loves Me Richard Marx - Paid Vacation
Pink Cadillac Natalie Cole
Everlasting Natalie Cole
When the Going Gets Tough Billy Ocean
Ruby, Ruby Donald Fagen
Credit Card Baby The Wham
Sweet Home Chicago The Blues Brothers
I'm Your Baby Tonight Whitney Houston
If This Is It Huey Lewis and the News
Best of Me Huey Lewis and the News
634-5789 Sam and Dave, many others
Credence Clearwater Revival Proud Mary ("...Rollin' on the River")
The Way You Make Me Feel Michael Jackson
Sweet Sensation Levert
Murphy's Law Al Jarreau
Danny's All-Star Joint Rickie Lee Jones
Love is a Loser Erasure
Stray Cat Strut Stray Cats
Every Heartbeat Amy Grant
The Motown Song Rod Stewart
Selfish One Diana Ross
Some Kind of Wonderful ?? (recently covered by Huey Lewis)
Boy From New York City various (covered by Manhattan Transfer)
Shake, Rattle & Roll various (recently covered by Huey Lewis)
Old Time Rock 'n Roll Bob Seeger
You Shook Me All Night Long AC/DC
Brown Sugar The Rolling Stones
Truckin' Grateful Dead
The Wanderer Dion
Kansas City Dion
Little Deuce Coupe The Beach Boys
Night Club Two Step
Do I Have To Say The Words? Bryan Adams
Everything I Do Bryan Adams
Almost Paradise Ann Wilson - Footloose
The Lady in Red Chris de Burgh - Into The Light
I'll Always Love You Taylor Dayne
Crazy for You Madonna
Just The Way You Are Billy Joel
Baby I Love Your Way Peter Frampton
Completely Michael Bolton
Vision of Love Mariah Carey
Endless Summer Nights Richard Marx
Earth Angel The Penguins
Love Potion Number 9 (recent cover from movie soundtrack)
Kokomo The Beach Boys
Caribbean Queen Billy Ocean
GENERAL INFO FOR DJS WHEN "COUPLES DANCERS" ARE DANCING
We realize that you have to cater to everyone, we're usually in the minority,
and we can't have it all our way! The above describes an ideal world for
1. This dancing is far more energetic than "freestyle" dancing, so we need to
be able to take a break and/or ask a different person to dance every few
minutes. So we tend not to like very long songs; in fact, the old-style radio
limit of three-and-a-half minutes is a good rule of thumb. There are exceptions
for truly great songs ("Sweet Home Chicago" for WCS, "Vogue" for hustle) but
that's what they are -- exceptions.
2. This also means, please don't cross-fade from one song to the next. Look:
I know you've spent a long time learning the skill of beat-matching, but it
just doesn't work for us. Besides liking songs to be reasonably short, we like
songs to have a definite beginning, middle, and end. A lot of us play off of
the changes that occur within a song, especially at the beginning and end, and
we miss this if it isn't there.
3. Since you're no longer beat-matching you can leave the pitch controls on
the CD players and turntables at "normal". We don't want all the songs to
hae the exact same tempo; variety is good!
4. PLEASE LOSE the pre-mixed medleys. I'm thinking especially of the ones of
50s rock and roll by "Jive Bunny" but this really applies to all such medleys.
These things bury all of the individual character of the original songs under a
pounding synth beat; some of us think that we might as well be dancing to a
metronome. We'd much rather hear a few of the original songs, or at worst,
modern covers like Cheap Trick's "Don't Be Cruel" or Billy Joel's "All Shook
Up" -- but no medleys, please.
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